Do you go to Second Beach in the Summer?

Councilor Edward Silveira questioned if Middletown residents go to Second Beach in the summer. We want to hear from you!

On Monday night, Middletown Town Councilor Edward Silveira said that he does not think the majority of Middletown’s 17,000 residents use Second Beach in summer.  He made the statement during a special meeting held to discuss the cost estimates of the proposed beach pavilion.

The proposal to build the new building which is estimated around $6 million, may go in front of voters this November.

We want to know! Do you go to Second Beach during the summer months?  Note the polling for this questions has ben closed.

Colin McClennan June 19, 2012 at 10:29 AM
Need Sidewalks along Purgatory Road before we need a pavilion!!
Npt Native June 19, 2012 at 10:33 AM
We go like once a year and will go sometimes at night after work. I agree with the sidewalks and safe roads. I would rather ride our bikes down, but am nervouse to do so with the kids.
Barbara June 19, 2012 at 11:13 AM
Second beach is so beautiful it should be land trusted to keep this sort of thing from being built....Colin McClennan is right, for safety sake, build side walks and many bike paths first!
Cathy June 19, 2012 at 01:00 PM
We live in the town of Middletown and why should we have to pay to go to Second Beach. We pay enough taxes now, with garbage collection, property taxe, auto taxes etc. If you live on the Middletown you should be able to use the beach for free. I agree with the other 3 coments. A bike path and side walks should come first.
Npt Native June 19, 2012 at 01:09 PM
@Cathy, that is why we go at night after it closes. Boogie boarding is a lot more fun when the beach is empty.
Janet Bolender June 19, 2012 at 01:38 PM
We love Second Beach! I've been going since I was a child and still go every weekend. I'm not sure why we need a pavilion, I like it the way it is. Sidewalks would be a huge improvement!
Michael Richard June 19, 2012 at 01:49 PM
I have been a life long second beach person. it is the only beach I go to regularly on Aquidneck island. i am also a Middletown Resident. While i think sidewalks on purgatory is a great idea, and should have been done a long long time ago, i also think that not improving the beach facility is significantly shortsighted. The facility hasn't changed since it was built, is barely functional, and is an eyesore. Second beach needs a facility with bath houses, showers, and clean useful bathrooms. Bath houses would be a revenue generator, and heaean forbid, a small hall facility like Gooseberry's is built... low maintenance and revenue generating.... would be a great idea... All this can be done without impacting the environment of the beach... First beach's facilities are wonderful, asnd have not impacted the environment at all....
Matt June 19, 2012 at 02:14 PM
I grew up there and worked there for several years, but as a resident I would rather just go to third beach for free with my family. People there are much more respectful, and like others have said, why should I have to buy a sticker and pay to go to a beach that I live a half mile from? Ill use it the other 9 months of the year. We have MANY greater needs for things like roads, sidewalks, and maybe free trash pickup like Newport has. ( Not free really, but paid for by taxes ). The fact that Middletowners pay such high taxes and then are charged additionally to for trash, beach, etc, is a crying shame.
Karen B June 19, 2012 at 05:32 PM
I also believe residents should not have to pay to visit our own beach. I grew up here and remember the time when we could enjoy our beach for free. After the fees kept climbing, I stopped buying the sticker and went after 3PM, but then that was changed to 4PM and once again, it became another money issue that I believe has impacted the residents and our use of the beach in a negative way. Third Beach, although free, often has high bacteria problems throughout the summer.
Ed June 19, 2012 at 09:33 PM
I appreciate the Patch, picking up on my concerns regarding the Beach Pavillion proposal and asking input from the Residents. I do think it is important to note that my issue in this proposal is sharing the 6M dollar burden on alll of our Residents & Business Owners for a property that isn't being utilized by a good portion of them and that is only used 12 weeks per year. Here are the facts- in 2011 there were 2,020 stickers sold to our Middletown Residents and 2,279 to Non-Residents, that is roughly 40% of our Town Residents(Tax Payers) utilizing this service- the other 60% either use Third Beach (which is free to all Middletown's) or go after hours, after the crowds diminish, or enjoy other activities. At the meeting last night, I asked if the Town would have a direct increase in revenue from this major investment, there is no known answer to this question, as it stands now Sachuest Beach wouldn't be open any additional hours, and we have to assume the $ brought in would be roughly the same. How would we pay for a 6M bond (about 500k per year in debt service) at a property that we currently net 300k.....raise your taxes..? I will not support this- and I will not jeopardize the Fire Station Bond that needs approval by our Residents desperately- remember this will be paid entirely through a revenue stream that we recieve annualy (Navy PPV Fund), so your taxes will not be affected. Sincerely Ed Silveira Middletown Town Councilor 401-862-5105
HMR June 19, 2012 at 11:32 PM
I think after all the bicycle accidents lately sidewalks and/or bike path are a must. We can't even let our kids walk to school here bc no sidewalks. We live in Middletown and can't believe we have to pay to use the town beach. When we lived in California we lived in a town with beach ranked #1 in the US and didn't have to pay to use it. It's ridiculous!!
charlie vaillancourt June 20, 2012 at 12:30 AM
First, I would like to point out that I am not criticizing any council members; they make a lot of good decisions. I surmise the idea came from the beach committee and I understand and would expect a board that is passionate about the beach may promote such a project. I was just disappointed to read about the suggestion of spending six million dollars on a beach building in Middletown when we don’t have sidewalks to get there. I have to assume, like myself, most of us already feel over-taxed as it is. Yet, now we are being asked to support a six million bond to improve a beach building that is used 12 weeks a year? It truly doesn’t make any sense to me. I prefer the vista of our beaches to be left as natural as possible. Also, my concern is the new facility would require additional employees to manage. Not to mention the maintenance & expensive flood insurance; all at a time when we should be shrinking government, not expanding it. As a resident that buys beach stickers, I can tell you I am perfectly happy with the beach as it is. Lastly, our beaches are always full, so any additional investment will not result in added revenue, so I must ask like any good businessman, why spend the money? It’s a fool’s choice to move forward on this proposal.
B June 20, 2012 at 01:04 AM
Mr. Silveira, you hit the nail on the head. Couldn't agree with you more!
William F Horan June 20, 2012 at 03:13 AM
We do not need any more development at Second beach. Let it return to nature. Please give tax payers a bvreak - we have already paid enough.
Michael E. Whitty June 20, 2012 at 03:59 AM
We in Middletown are being asked to allocate six million dollars and there will be no bathhouses. For that amount of money, I expect both a bathhouse and my own parking space. It is my understanding that for six millions dollars we will get two more bathrooms, more offices (?), a bigger concession stand, and double the amount of decking. To me, that sounds like far less than a six million dollar project. If we do not pass it now, some say it will cost us more in the future. What ten million in two years? There is something very wrong here. You only need look to First Beach. They have bathhouses with reserved parking, a machine that collects the red seaweed off the beach, concession stands, and games for the children. For six million dollars, I expect a lot more than what is being discussed.
Newby June 20, 2012 at 12:07 PM
Agree with Mr. Vaillancort. Doubling the size of the pavillion will not double revenue but will increase costs for employees and maintenance resulting in less revenue. The number of cars allowed will also shrink as the pavillion will eat up valuable parking space. Bigger is not better. But we do need to improve it - why can't the architect work with the existing footprint? make a new building that works better with the same footprint and impact on the environment? And sidewalks would be a huge improvement. Would love to let my kids ride their bikes to beach or to school, but Paradise Ave. is just too dangerous. Would love to let them walk to Gaudet but again no sidewalks. Paradise, Berkeley and Green End are a speeding car's best friend. I saw another bicyclist got hit by a car yesterday in Newport at First Beach. The bike was mangled. I hope the biycyclist is OK. Can't imagine that he is.
Fafar June 20, 2012 at 01:00 PM
How abou this..... "The Coca-Cola Pavilion at 2nd Beach "
Npt Native June 20, 2012 at 01:42 PM
The only time I feel comfortable riding my bike is at 6:00 in the morning. Barely any traffic...anytime after that is a nightmare. For all of the reasons Newby stated, I can't let my kids ride their bikes to the beach. The speeding, distracted drivers are ridiculous. Our roads need to be improved so that drivers can share the roads with pedestrians and bicyclists alone. Imagine what life would be like on the Island if more of us got our on our bikes and feet?


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